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Am I truly submissive?

oceanluvr1219 2001-05-07 19:27

Just my usual ponderings

Today at work I was again filled with tremendous doubt about whether or not I am truly submissive by nature or if it is just the fantasy of being spanked and taken care of. I rationalized that since I have had these feelings since I was about 16 or so and up until I began to manuver my way around the net it was just that......a fantasy. Now, however, thanks to the internet other ideas have permeated my mind telling me that "this is the way to go" or " yes, that's you, that's your personality. That's what you truly want and where you truly belong." But is it really? Or is it just the power of the net?

 I looked around me at work today. I watched as woman talked to neighbors and friends etc and discussed normal everyday things. I remembered when I was like that and had no thoughts about submissiveness, no thoughts about being dominated, of finding someone who would care about me enough to discipline me, to see me as a lady and also as a woman who finds pleasure in pleasing him. A man who would always have my best interest in mind as well as his pride in me. As you can see by my description of my marriage I hardly chose that type of person but rather someone who needed me and depended on me, abused me both verbally and emotionally....at times physically.

Is it the power and knowledge found on the net that sparks my obsession? Are my desires really just fantasies that should go no further? I have no idea. I remain confused even with all the reading I have found here online.

Opalescent Dreams 2001-05-09 19:56
I don't have any specific answers for you. Labels and boxes can help you figure yourself out, but you are to complex to completely define. You may be a bottom, but not a submissive. You may just want to be rescued from your current situation. You may indeed be submissive. In your shoes, I might refer to myself as "sub-curious," since you haven't actually experienced it yet. Please, take care of yourself. It isn't right for *anyone*, including your husband, to abuse you.
oceanluvr1219 2001-05-09 22:05
Dearest Opalescent Dreams
  Thank you for your wise words. I'm not sure how to go about finding out if I truly am a submissive but perhaps at this stage it isn't all that important. For now I must be content being "sub-curious". I do envy all of you who know who you are and have the courage to step out of the "norm".
firemastersbaby 2001-05-09 22:46

Is it just the knowledge that you aren't alone that sparks your obsession? i heard a quote long ago, which i'll have to paraphrase. The idea was that one's convictions are strengthened 1000-fold when one other person agrees with them. It's hard to feel alone; now that you know you aren't, maybe you feel freer to actually 'fess up to your feelings.

oceanluvr1219 2001-05-10 17:37
firebaby,
 Thank you for your insight. I am sure, now that you mention it that "knowing I'm not alone" is one of the reasons these feelings have become so strong. The problem is now that I have accepted these feelings/desires etc NOW WHAT??? I almost wish I never paid attention to them at least not to the extent of intellectually exploring bdsm because I seem to feel emptier, not to mention the fact that the feelings and desires are so much stronger now.
Opalescent Dreams 2001-05-10 19:13

Dear Oceanluvr,
I can both top and bottom, but I don't truly consider myself to be either dominant or submissive. That may change, as I grow as a person. Remember, a label of any sort is a description of who you are. No label can wholly define you. ;) Rather than deciding what you are, and trying to "fit" into a box, perhaps you can go ahead and figure out what interests/doesn't interest you, what you do and do not like? I suspect that even the most dominant Dom/mes and the most submissive subs don't think about BDSM 24/7!

I think that before you worry about the BDSM factor, you need to resolve your personal situation. It is unacceptable for your husband to abuse you. Whether he, or another, is your partner is exploring your sexuality, you need to try to find a healthy dynamic for *you*. Perhaps marriage counseling can help things work, perhaps not. Trying to get involved with your fantasy man *while* you are struggling with an abusive marriage is one of the worst things that you can do, IMHO.

oceanluvr1219 2001-05-11 10:17

Opalescent Dreams,
Thank you again for your words of encouragement and insight. I apologize if I wasn't clear in my first posting here. Actually, I believe my marital status info was in my introduction in the New Members Board. I left my husband 17 mo ago. I walked out while he was at work. It took years of struggling with the "what ifs" and guilt before I was able to walk past the fear and out the door. During my 31 yr marriage I was in therapy more times than I care to remember. One thing that I have recently realized is......now that I am no longer in that relationship, no longer focused on the things we focus on in an abusive, co-dependant relationship.....now it's me I have to deal with. It's sort of scary and overwhelming to feel all these feelings that were buried for so long. Needs and desires never realized or paid attention to are popping up all over the place. It's important to me right now to slow down, know myself, train my thoughts and in general just plain "chill". These thoughts of submission etc though they are not constant thoughts or an obsession just won't go away. It almost seems like the harder I try to push them away the more they persist.

Well, it's a little after 10am here in upstate ny and since we hardly see clear skies and sun I am going to take this body of me to the park and tan for awhile. You never know, I could meet a loving dominant male who just happens to like women who tan in parks at 11 am.:-)

 

Opalescent Dreams 2001-05-11 13:33
I'm glad to hear that you have gotten away from the abuse you suffered, and that you are on the road to healing. Rather than pushing away the submissive thoughts (so long as they aren't interfering with your life), embrace them. I think that this is a good time to explore who you are.
I wrote a poem a while back, before I heard about BDSM, that touches on this topic a bit:

Me
I have a young face
And old eyes.
Experience and innocence clash,
And then subside.
I am contrasts
And contradictions;
Melding certain logic
With gauzy intuition.
I am delicate
Yet very strong.
Impulsive, while patient
All day long.
I am the master
And the slave
More and more,
I am what you crave...
5/1995

oceanluvr1219 2001-05-12 17:39

Dearest Opalescent Dreams,
  Again thank you for your wise words and for sharing with me something as precious as your poem. I, too, write poetry. This one I wrote just before I began to explore bdsm.

Phantom

© by Patti N
O Let me lay in your arms
til morning appears
Kiss my lips with your
smile
Give to me your heart
so tender
Lay your gentle hands
upon my soul
As your eyes look
deep into mine

Create in me a knowing,
that erases all my fears,
That tells me all I've
heard of love and passion
are real

Do not go too soon
Linger a while longer
at least until the
glow is gone
It's embers still warm
within me

Gently place in my heart
a burning passion flower
So it may grow while
you're away
It's perfume ever
scenting reality
replacing it with fantasy

Hold me tight before
I reach the threshold
of my dream
Kiss me deeply
before I wake

...alone in my room!

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